News:

SMF - Just Installed!

 

The best topic

*

Replies: 10413
Total votes: : 4

Last post: Today at 02:03:25 PM
Re: Forum gossip thread by Lokmar

A

Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price

Started by Anonymous, August 16, 2019, 02:22:54 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 3 Window Lickers are viewing this topic.

Anonymous

Justin, you are not so important to the country that you are above parliamentary ethics rules.



By Lorne Gunter of Sun News Media



I thought Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had hit a new low for incoherent and incomprehensible speeches back in June when he announced his government's plan to ban single-use plastics at a news conference in a nature preserve southeast of Montreal.



The Trudeau family has charged taxpayers up to $300 a month for bottled water since Justin took office, something our sanctimoniously "green" P.M. has trouble justifying while plotting to take plastics away from the rest of us.



So when asked by a reporter if his family had made any efforts to reduce its own plastics use, the bumbling, fumbling Trudeau stammered, "We have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of... water out of... when we have water bottles out of plastic. Sorry! Away from plastic towards paper like drink-box water bottle sort of things."



But now that announcement looks like a Nobel prize acceptance speech next to the gibberish and gobbledygook Trudeau served up at a news conference in Niagara-on-the-lake on Wednesday when asked for his reaction to Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion's scathing report on the Snc-lavalin scandal.



But first, a couple of new gems that have surfaced since yesterday from Dion's 63-page report.



Members of Trudeau's staff continue to meet with Snc-lavalin executives even after the director of public prosecutions (DPP) had decided a deferred prosecution agreement was not justified in the bribery case of the Montreal engineering firm.



They continued to meet secretly with SNC while Trudeau and others were pressuring then-attorney General Jody Wilson-raybould to overrule the DPP, as well as after SNC had filed a formal appeal of the DPP'S ruling.



Also, Dion revealed that at least nine witnesses claimed they had more to tell him about the prime minister's or his staff's behaviour but could not because Trudeau had invoked cabinet confidentiality rules to keep them quiet.



The nonsense at Trudeau's Wednesday news conference revolves around his repeated claim that he "fully accepts and takes responsibility" for what the ethics commissioner called his "troubling tactics" and "flagrant attempts to influence" Wilson-raybould's decision.



Trudeau said he took responsibility, but then he stated he disagreed with Dion's conclusions and failed to identify any concrete steps he had taken.



He said he took responsibility, but then excused his behaviour by insisting it is "my job as prime minister to stand up for Canadians and defend their interests."



He then admitted that "yes, it is essential that we do that in a way that defends our institutions and upholds prosecutorial independence, but we need to be able to talk about the impacts on Canadians right across the country of decisions being made."



That's true, if by "impacts on Canadians" you mean the impact on Liberal votes and if by "right across the country" you mean from Montreal to Sept-iles.



He said he took responsibility, but then he added "I can't apologize for standing up for Canadian jobs." He said he took responsibility, then described the scandal as "two elements" of his job "coming into conflict in an unfortunate way."



He found it difficult "to balance and navigate through the very important principles of defending the public interest and respecting and upholding ... the independence of our judiciary," yet he has shown absolutely no understanding that an independent judiciary is vastly more important to the public interest than jobs at a Liberal-friendly firm in a (largely) Liberal-friendly province.



That's why his response to the ethics report is such utter rubbish. It makes less sense than his "drinking water from boxes" bafflement.



Once again we see a prime minister who believes that the greatest public good is re-election of the Liberal government. Anything that stands in the way of that can be brushed aside.

Anonymous

RCMP will have to decide whether ethics violation a crime



By Brian Lilley



We know that what Justin Trudeau did in the Snc-lavalin affair was unethical, now we need to know if what he did was criminal.



The Ethics Commissioner found that Trudeau broke the law — violated the Conflict of Interest Act — in pushing for Snc-lavalin to get a sweetheart deal to avoid bribery and corruption charges.



What the RCMP need to determine now is whether Trudeau is guilty of obstruction of justice.



"The RCMP is examining this matter carefully with all available information and will take appropriate actions as required," the RCMP said in a statement.



That doesn't tell us whether Trudeau is actually under investigation, but he should be.



"The evidence abundantly shows that Mr. Trudeau knowingly sought to influence Ms. Wilson-raybould both directly and through the actions of his agents," Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion wrote in his report.



For people that think trying to influence the attorney general not to prosecute a company on bribery and corruption charges is no big deal, stop and think about that.



The leader of our national government was trying, as the report stated, to "circumvent, undermine and ultimately attempt to discredit the decision of the Director of Public Prosecutions."



That means that the leader of our national government wanted to decide whether a company — it could very well have been an individual — would be prosecuted by how he felt about them.



We do not have a justice system that decides who should and should not be prosecuted based on who you know in the PMO, but that is what Trudeau wanted.



The criminal code defines obstruction of justice as someone who "wilfully attempts in any manner to obstruct, pervert or defeat the course of justice in a judicial proceeding."



Can you say that Justin Trudeau's actions don't fit within that definition?



When this story first broke, I asked former Ontario attorney general, and Liberal, Michael Bryant for his thoughts.



Bryant, who now heads up the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, was blunt.



"A lot of police officers have laid a lot of obstruction of justice charges on a lot of ordinary Canadians, with a lot less evidence than this," Bryant said.



Justice, if served properly, should treat the prime minister the same as the average person.



If ordinary Canadians would face charges for this, then so should the prime minister.



The PM is trying to skate past this by saying that he was just trying to protect jobs.



Nevermind that the former CEO of Snc-lavalin said the 9,000 jobs in Canada would not have been in jeopardy if the company was convicted, and forget that most of the people employed by SNC would be hired elsewhere.



The PM'S claim raises some important questions.



If it is okay to break the law to 'save jobs,' how many jobs does it take to justify breaking the law?



The PM is playing a dangerous game here — one that could do serious damage to our justice system and challenge the idea that Canada is a country based on the rule of law.



If the PM can try to force a decision on prosecution, then what is to stop a future PM from calling a judge to get the decision they want? That isn't a justice system that I want for Canada.



This is what is on the line here, this is why this matters.

Anonymous

Tories want the truth

Demand answers on how Trudeau broke law




Conservative members of the House of Commons ethics committee are asking for an emergency meeting on how Prime Minister Justin Trudeau broke the country's ethics law.



Peter Kent, MP for Thornhill, and Jacques Gourde, MP for Levis-lotbiniere, have written to the committee chair asking that a meeting be called so that MPS can hear from Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion.



"These findings show that Justin Trudeau used the power of his office to reward his friends and punish his critics," the pair write regarding the report by Dion issued Wednesday.



The report found that Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act in multiple ways by inappropriately pressuring then attorney general Jody Wilson-raybould to give a sweetheart deal to construction and engineering giant Snc-lavalin.



"The authority of the prime minister and his office was used to circumvent, undermine and ultimately attempt to discredit the decision of the director of public prosecutions as well as the authority of Ms. Wilson-raybould as the Crown's chief law officer," Dion wrote.



Prosecutors are supposed to make decisions on who to charge criminally without political interference but Dion found that Trudeau did interfere politically on behalf of Snc-lavalin and even let partisan political considerations enter the discussion, including his own re-election prospects.



"Canadians deserve fulsome answers to the many remaining questions," Kent and Gourde write.



They ask committee chair Bob Zimmer, also a Conservative MP, to call a meeting on an urgent basis and invite Dion to appear.



The New Democrats are also asking for an urgent committee meeting.



Trudeau has said that he accepts the report but has openly rejected Dion's conclusion and insists he did nothing wrong.



The RCMP have said that they are looking into the matter.



"The RCMP is examining this matter carefully with all available information and will take appropriate actions as required," the force said in a statement, declining to elaborate further.

Anonymous

Trudeau is not only not sorry, he would do it again and again and again.



Sorry, not sorry: Trudeau





FREDERICTON — Prime Minister Justin trudeau is repeating what's sure to be his go-to election campaign message on the snclavalin affair: he's not about to apologize for what he calls standing up for Canadian jobs, communities and citizens.



During an event in Fredericton this morning, trudeau reiterated that he accepts Wednesday's damning report from federal ethics commissioner Mario dion and takes full responsibility for what happened.



"I'm not going to apologize for standing up for Canadian jobs, because that's my job — to make sure Canadians and communities and pensioners and families across the country are supported, and that's what i will always do," he said during a brief, impromptu news conference.



"I disagree with the ethics commissioner's conclusions, but he is an officer of Parliament doing his job and I fully accept his report, which means I take full responsibility."



He also says the government intends to implement the recommendations of a separate report from former Liberal cabinet minister anne Mclellan.



Pressure is mounting on trudeau to say he's sorry to former cabinet members Jody Wilsonraybould and Jane Philpott, but the prime minister is making it clear that no such apology will be forthcoming.



Ethics Commissioner Mario dion concluded that the prime minister violated the Conflict of interest act by improperly pressuring Wilson-raybould.

Anonymous

https://postmediatorontosun.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/nease0816.jpg">

Anonymous

Poor Justine. His au pairs told him growing up he could do whatever he wanted because he is so frickin cute.

sasquatch

Quote from: "Herman"Poor Justine. His au pairs told him growing up he could do whatever he wanted because he is so frickin cute.

This is what happens when self-entitled rich kids grow up to be self-entitled adults who only won on his famous(arguably step) daddy's last name.

Gaon

Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "Herman"Poor Justine. His au pairs told him growing up he could do whatever he wanted because he is so frickin cute.

This is what happens when self-entitled rich kids grow up to be self-entitled adults who only won on his famous(arguably step) daddy's last name.

I am an immigrant, but from what I have read that is why he is Canada's prime minister.
The Russian Rock It

Anonymous


Bricktop

If this conduct occurred in Australia, regardless of which side of politics the culprit resided in, he or she would be OUT in a heartbeat.



Public outcry would leave his party no option but to remove the leader.



I suspect the same applies to many other countries...even the US!!!



WTF is wrong with you people. Make some noise.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"If this conduct occurred in Australia, regardless of which side of politics the culprit resided in, he or she would be OUT in a heartbeat.



Public outcry would leave his party no option but to remove the leader.



I suspect the same applies to many other countries...even the US!!!



WTF is wrong with you people. Make some noise.

Our election is only sixty six days away..



It's too late for the Liberal Party to replace Justin Trudeau.

Bricktop


Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Then I hope your electorate does what is right.

Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of  our many far left parties.

Bricktop


Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Sounds like a gerrymander.

It's just the parliamentary system. In a hard left leaning country like this one, the Tories have no allies.